tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14574087.post112723110348331483..comments2023-08-25T09:44:42.886-04:00Comments on The Lyceum: The Great EuthyphroDanielhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/10190478379984737926noreply@blogger.comBlogger6125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14574087.post-88177705458686090102012-07-20T06:56:55.166-04:002012-07-20T06:56:55.166-04:00Quite useful information, thanks for your post.Quite useful information, thanks for your post.sitehttp://www.ric.edu.vn/forum/user/profile/6353.pagenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14574087.post-77608876235203884912009-10-05T21:06:40.746-04:002009-10-05T21:06:40.746-04:00Hello.
I have a question about Socrates' idea...Hello.<br /><br />I have a question about Socrates' idea of what holiness is. In the Platonic Dialogue Euthyphro, Socrates disagrees with Euthyphro about Piety or Holiness being that which pleases the gods. What is Socrates’ view of Holiness, when he says it is a form of Justice?Mavis Asamoahnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14574087.post-8773489443338660472007-07-09T09:46:00.000-04:002007-07-09T09:46:00.000-04:00This interpretation of Euthyphro's character seems...This interpretation of Euthyphro's character seems wildly implausible.<BR/><BR/>1. If Socrates did persuade Euthyphro not to pursue the indictment against his father, we would expect his contemporary admirers to have reported the fact. Phlegmatic Xenophon definitely would have done so. And it would have been at least strange for ironic Plato to have downplayed such a striking fact. So how is it that Diogenes Laertius, writing 500 years later in the third century AD, learns of an important anecdote that Socrates' contemporaries apparently didn't believe worth mentioning? Those who read Diogenes Laertius see why: the man is a gossip, who obviously doesn't know and doesn't care as to the truth of the countless bizarre and entertaining stories he serves up to us.<BR/><BR/>2. Plato's references to Euthyphro are not "at least semi-serious". In the Cratylus, Socrates is utterly sarcastic, proposing a long list of obviously ridiculous etymological claims which he attributes to Euthyphro's inspiration. In the Euthyphro, Socrates' 5c request that Euthyphro become his teacher is a standard ironic pose that he frequently adopts.<BR/><BR/>3. And Euthyphro is not "one of Socrates' most clever interlocutors". He merely does as well as the young boys that Socrates sometimes talks with, allowing himself docilely to be led from one hypothesis to another and ending in complete bewilderment. Many of Socrates' adult interlocutors are much more able - e.g., Protagoras, Callicles, and Thrasymachus.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14574087.post-1127597529049781512005-09-24T17:32:00.000-04:002005-09-24T17:32:00.000-04:00I'm a little curious--your final paragraph appears...I'm a little curious--your final paragraph appears to suggest that you take this dialogue to be at least quasi-historical and, perhaps, fully historical. I'm thinking this both because of your mentioning of the verb <I>apienai</I> and the passage from Diogenes Laertius. Do you have any reason to think that the dialogue is historical <I>rather</I> than a dramatic fiction? I know there are some scholars who think that some of Plato's works are historical, but I've not heard this with respect to this particular dialogue.Vitae Scrutatorhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12808120163472036743noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14574087.post-1127244042014232682005-09-20T15:20:00.000-04:002005-09-20T15:20:00.000-04:00I should add that I have read a lot of commentary ...I should add that I have read a lot of commentary on Socrates that tends to treat the daemon and so forth rather at face value. i.e. that Socrates is really embracing religion and inspiration, albeit as seen more in the Pythagorean mysteries.Clark Goblehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03876620613578404474noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14574087.post-1127243547399871482005-09-20T15:12:00.000-04:002005-09-20T15:12:00.000-04:00Out of curiosity, how was he viewed in the 19th ce...Out of curiosity, how was he viewed in the 19th century when Platonism was popular and religion was taken more seriously in mainstream academia?Clark Goblehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03876620613578404474noreply@blogger.com